« Reply #9 on: Oct 15, 2010, 5:00 pm »
 
Aceman,
Where are you hoping to use a hover?  A lot of the areas in the north are protected as SACs so you wont be able to just pop out for a cruise!  Strangford, Lough Foyle etc. are both great Hover spots but you need special permission from NIEA to go there.

I have a BBV4 which is great for coastal cruising. I've (unintentionally) been out in a F5 relatively comfortably.  Cruises happily with 3 (and occasionally 4) people at around 25knots with plenty of oomph to spare.

« Reply #8 on: Oct 15, 2010, 2:30 pm »
 
No argument from me Jon - if you are in the water it's sound advice.  However, I'd rather not be in the water if I can avoid it  ;D - it's  bad place for a non-fish species!

What's the problem is with you softy Cornish types - the water temp is 16C down your way today - that's almost tropical (it's only 12C up here  ??? - and that's about as good as it gets!).  No sensible adult goes near the North Sea without at least a wet suit - even kids splashing around only last about ten minutes in summer before they turn blue!

« Reply #7 on: Oct 15, 2010, 2:16 pm »
 
I bought one of these last year but it was just a tiny bit on the small side so my other half is going to get it. If you get a rear zip version make sure it's got the crotch zip too because you know what will inneviably happen on a cold winters day after that nice hot cup of tea !!!!!!
 
I have to add that if you are going out in groups a float suit while not ideal is more than enough to keep you safe unless it's the north sea in late spring brrrrrrrrrrrr.
« Last Edit: Oct 15, 2010, 2:19 pm by Steve Holland »
There's no such thing as bad weather, you're just wearing the wrong jacket!!

« Reply #6 on: Oct 15, 2010, 2:00 pm »
 
When things turn bad, your craft is your lifeboat - it may be all that's between you and a watery grave!


ever so small disagreement with this statement, indeed the craft is your primary saftey in event of something happening, but your saftey equipment and clothing should also be upto the job. if you go in the water.

In 5 to 10 deg sea's you will have less than 20mins survival time, depending on your physical condition/body type etc. sea temperatures in winter months in the uk! with no survival protection/protective clothing.

I would surmise that as the sea temp is currently dropping at this time many people would not last 30mins in the water.

The floation suits i see people wearing out on cruises, do not keep you dry, but will most certainly prolong your exposure should you end up in the drink. but as sea temps drop, these may only take your 15mins, to 25 mins.

If you seriously consider going out on the water, in anything other than summer months, then a surface dry suit is a must. These with the use of an undersuit, will only give you 2-3 hrs of floating around, in 5 to 10 deg water, but that may save your life.

I was born in newlyn in cornwall and have grown up, spending my time in and on the sea. As a hobby i also go spear fishing and spend much time in the water during summer months, i know what it feels like being in the sea for an hour, and thats with a top to toe wet suit in summer months. I used to do the long distance swim in penzance, which is newlyn harbour to the swimming pool at the key, just over a mile, with no wet suit and believe me even in summer months, and being extremly fit at the time it takes a few days to get over.

surface membrane dry suits, designed for sailing jet skiing etc, can be bought for around 200pounds, many are breathable and if you drop the undersuit in summer months would be a must for the slighty unfit and portly amoung us (me included). I would not go out at this time of year without one, which is why i am currently saving to buy a decent one for crusing.


« Reply #5 on: Oct 15, 2010, 11:40 am »
 
Ross might be a pessimist but that may help keep him alive  ;D

Seriously though, the rate at which conditions can change on open water (and that includes inland Lochs, Loughs or Lakes - depends on where you live  :D ) can be alarming.   What starts out as a nice calm cruise can turn into an Oh s**t situation in a few minutes!

All hovercraft should be able to float, without power AND without flooding or capsizing in the same conditions that a similar sized boat would be able to (at least one step higher up the beaufort scale than their specified operating envelope).  When things turn bad, your craft is your lifeboat - it may be all that's between you and a watery grave!

Unfortunately there are no standardised methods used to to determine the specifications (one manufacturer may specify the maximum load when hovering on tarmac whilst another on water or short grass).  My advice would be to ask these questions above before you buy anything - they are a lot more important than the colour, speed, etc.  ::)   You may ahve already found the buyers guide on here (click here) - it will give you some other stuff to think/ask about.

And.... there are plenty guys on here who would be more than happy to answer any questions you may have

Good luck!

« Reply #4 on: Oct 14, 2010, 11:03 pm »
 
In that case you'll want a 3 seater.  Most hovers are sold by what they can physically carry in enclosed flat calm water.  A 2 seater is likely to carry one person safely and a 3 seater 2 in reasonable conditions.  Probably a single seater shouldn't be used on the sea unescorted - but there are of course exceptions.
 
My BBV3 can handle a force 4 with 2 on board but its hairy - I once tried a force 5 - very briefly - I know when I'm beaten.  2 up on a calm day or a bit of a breeze is no problem -3 up would be a problem if anything went wrong at sea. OK on a lake or with a couple of kids, but not for coastal cruising.
 
Its the safety margin you'll need - not when the engines are on song, but when wallowing off shore with a flooded lift motor, trying to get the tools out with water slopping over the sides and the nav bailing furiously. Or just trying to get over hump after stopping.
 
Generally subtract one person from the claimed capacity for coastal work and two in anything but perfect conditions.
 
Ross  ( ever the pessimist )

aceman

« Reply #3 on: Oct 14, 2010, 8:21 pm »
 
Hi Trev


Thanks for the welcome to the club, I would go for a 2seater cruiser, but if if I mentioned selling the caravan the big girl would have my bags on the doorstep b4 me...lol


Anyway  http://www.foylehov.com/location.aspx  is only 25 ml away so I can still indulge myself


stevie

« Reply #2 on: Oct 14, 2010, 3:43 pm »
 
Welcome to the club Stevie
what sort of hover do you fancy, racing or cruising? do you want to take some mates with you when you go out.
Its better to work all these things out before you buy or build one as having the wrong type of hover may restrict what you can do with it.

Trev

aceman

« Reply #1 on: Oct 14, 2010, 1:51 pm »
 
Hi guys


Just a quick intro from myself...... stevie from N.ireland


I don't have a hovercraft,but ive just got hooked after having a session on one at the mates 40th birthday treat at an activity centre........http://www.foylehov.com/default.aspx.


We started with practise to get the hang of it,then a practise lap of the circuit followed by 3 timed laps. My 1st was 1.47,2nd 1.35 and 3rd was 1.25 mins beating the famous Gary Linneker who's time was 1.44. really enjoyed that one. The mate has renamed me...the mini Stig!!


http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/northernexposure/locations/hovercraft/


Ive enjoyed reading all the posts and watching the vids on you tube, so as soon as I get the 6 winning numbers i'll be on my way,good job dreams are free


Good health to all to enjoy your hobby


stevie