[Philip Posts: 2436 Status: Offline 12" above the Earth's surface WWW]

On a lighter note: on the lockdown survival kit, I have managed to secure 5 bottles of Jameson over the Xmas (all free).

That's a good start for 2021, keep some of it for the Irish cruise 2021, it would certainly raise the tone, I think on cruises we've gone through many suspect alcoholic drinks ranging from almost all the strange stuff in Aldi/Lidl to some really nice whiskeys (and whisky), Weirdest has to be the box of various Belgian beers which were anywhere between 2% to something way up there! The flavours of such things as cherry, raspberry, etc made for some interesting combinations. Did we ever finish a bottle of any of it?
Its also now been established that Mary's Red X is not a vaccine against Covid as 100% of the people that ever drank some of it got the virus! Ok, only one person ever drank it.

[Al Posts: 875 Status: Offline WWW]

Exactly David, that is a good analogy.  This was one of the main reasons I decided against that particular vaccine in favour of waiting for the AstraZeneca one.  The politicians are not listening to the real experts who created and tested the vaccine.


 

[David Posts: 16 Status: Offline]

I know that I live in Ireland and the EU and that this may seem like Brit bashing but it is most definitely not. I have 2 worries about the UK vacinations.
1) manufacturers recommendations are there for a reason. EG would you extend service interval of your car by a factor of 3: 3 years instead of 1,
2) the manufacturer says 5 doses per vial but Boris wants to get 6.
I think that they are too new to play around with.
At 67yo and a smoker I am looking forward to getting the vaccine, preferably the Oxford one but I won't reject anyone of them.


On a lighter note: on the lockdown survival kit, I have managed to secure 5 bottles of Jameson over the Xmas (all free).

 

[Al Posts: 875 Status: Offline WWW]

I'll still stick with the AstraZeneca.  It's proven technology which is pretty safe.  The Pfizer & moderna are new tech and they are messing around with RNA and no one knows what effect that is going to have five years down the road.  Back in the 60's Thalidomide was deemed safe, yet there is a whole generation that has had to suffer it's i'll effects. 


As I said it's just a gut feeling I have and I don't feel comfortable with the RNA based vaccines, it's my choice to decide what vaccine I put in my body.


Pfizer & the experts are saying 21 to 28 day intervals between the two doses.  MP's are saying 12 weeks. 


As I said earlier I'm not a scientist and I'm certainly not anti vaccine, quite the opposite as I have the flu jab every year which is only about 50% affective.

[Philip Posts: 2436 Status: Offline 12" above the Earth's surface WWW]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnbOKH9Oe9s

[John Robertson Posts: 5121 Status: Offline WWW]

This may change your mind!
https://www.smh.com.au/national/scientists-call-for-pause-on-astrazeneca-vaccine-rollout-20210112-p56tjt.html

I'll take whatever I can get (in March if I'm lucky!) but I do have concerns on the efficacy of changing the 2nd dose interval (I suspect we'll be getting three doses eventually as the 1st one will have run out of steam after a few weeks with the 2nd dose lucky to give 60% immunity long term (i.e. not enough for herd immunity!).  The dose change looks very like desperation to me!   It'll almost certainly be a yearly event anyway as the virus mutates.

[Philip Posts: 2436 Status: Offline 12" above the Earth's surface WWW]

I was supposed to have my first Covid 19 vaccine injection today, but I bottled it     Something has been niggling me about the Pfizer vaccine, don't know what exactly and I know it's been given to millions of people already and no reported ill effects, but my gut feeling was to not have it.  I'm going to wait to have the Oxford Astra Zeneca vaccine.  No idea when I will get it as told the ambo service will not offer me that one.
But please if your offered a vaccination take it as I'm no expert or scientist, I just don't want the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines and that's down to personal choice.

That makes no sense.  Your gut has no information on how dangerous the Oxford one is, or not.

[Al Posts: 875 Status: Offline WWW]

Do you feel okay after your COVID injection Al?
Which one was it

I was supposed to have my first Covid 19 vaccine injection today, but I bottled it     Something has been niggling me about the Pfizer vaccine, don't know what exactly and I know it's been given to millions of people already and no reported ill effects, but my gut feeling was to not have it.  I'm going to wait to have the Oxford Astra Zeneca vaccine.  No idea when I will get it as told the ambo service will not offer me that one.


But please if your offered a vaccination take it as I'm no expert or scientist, I just don't want the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines and that's down to personal choice.

[Ian Brooks Posts: 3550 Status: Offline]

My M&D (90!) have had the Pfizer one. Dad had no effects, Mum had a sore arm for a few days.

[Al Posts: 875 Status: Offline WWW]

Do you feel okay after your COVID injection Al?
Which one was it

I haven't had it yet, getting it on Friday.  I'm hoping its the Oxford one as I don't fancy the Pfizer one, but my sister and sister in law have both had both pfizer jabs and so far haven't grown any extra heads or limbs     


Apparently Pfizer make Viagra, so if they can raise the dead, they should be able to keep the living safe

[Warby Posts: 1041 Status: Offline]

I had the Pfizer jab last Saturday, arm sore for 48 hours but nothing else , yet!!

[Ronnie L Posts: 507 Status: Offline]

Do you feel okay after your COVID injection Al?
Which one was it

[Al Posts: 875 Status: Offline WWW]

Since the river is in my garden then surely it counts as “at home” as long as I stay on the river? 

Fortunately the craft is in the workshop for a new skirt (8 years old!) so I’m not tempted.  In case the wonderful Mr Hancock is watching this thread!!!

Its the risk to others if you breakdown and need rescuing.  I can walk or ride out my garden straight on to moorland, woods and mountains and not see anyone for hours  [size=78%]. [/size] I am desperate to get out there on my trials bikes, but know I would be breaking the law if I did so and of course increasing my risk of needing medical help and increasing the burden on an already stretched NHS if I injure myself.  The silly thing is, it's OK for me to ride a push bike for a few miles on the roads, where I would more likely come into contact with people or could get hit off by a car or lorry[size=78%]


The really silly thing is that its OK for me to travel 130 mile round trip to do grocery shopping.  I also have to travel 130 mile round trip on Friday to get my covid vaccination.  Where is the logic? [/size]

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Wonderful Mr Hancock 
Oh you mean it's a wonder where he gets
all his crazy ideas from !!!

[Ian Brooks Posts: 3550 Status: Offline]

Since the river is in my garden then surely it counts as “at home” as long as I stay on the river? 

Fortunately the craft is in the workshop for a new skirt (8 years old!) so I’m not tempted.  In case the wonderful Mr Hancock is watching this thread!!!