« Reply #7 on: Feb 05, 2013, 1:29 pm »
 
The basic problem we have is, who trains the trainers?  There are no recognised qualifications specifically for hovercraft operation (other than the general marine ones for the large commercial craft) so there isn't anyone qualified to train (or to train trainers).  A classic catch-22 situation if there ever was one! 

The CRB stuff will already be covered by Al's job.


« Reply #6 on: Feb 05, 2013, 1:05 pm »
 
Its the same in the UK, even if teaching the clubs training course, you need a teaching certificate, and a CRB check etc. For any age if person, I.e if they are under 16 its extremly complicated, if over 16 you need an adult teaching certificate such to even teach them anything. My mrs used to run a learning centre, these things are not that simple,

« Reply #5 on: Feb 05, 2013, 12:51 pm »
 
Here you would need a recognized training qualification, usually at least a week long course. We have a system similar to City and Guilds for this. That along with some type of operating qualification will allow you train. I would assume the regs are something similar over there. The first is to ensure you are able to get the info across, the second to ensure you are competent operating the machine.
We will not hire any trainer unless they comply with these for any of our courses.

« Reply #4 on: Feb 05, 2013, 12:48 pm »
 
Sounds good - let us know if you need help with training or need more information.  If there was a reasonable sized group I'm sure we could arrange some training (the NW cruise week might be a good time?)

The Hovpod is the one bought by the Red Cross in 2008 for rescue work in Inverness.  A completely unsuitable craft (for that area) that has served no useful purpose whatsoever in the last 4 years (I assume they discovered it was useless pretty quickly).   £30,000 of hard-earned charity donations down the pan  ::)

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« Reply #3 on: Feb 05, 2013, 11:55 am »
 
I had my area youth development officer telephone me this morning.  He basically is the guy to help get this club off the ground, as he knows the legalities of what I am trying to do.  He may even be able to help out with storage of the craft, class room facilities with toilets etc.  The group maybe able to go under the umbrella of High Life Highland which could help with regards insurance , & facilities etc.
 
The one thing he said that is a must is I need some sort of instructional qualification, to indemnify myself if something nasty were to happen because whatever insurance I had would most likely be nullinvoid without this qualification.  Normally the qualification would need to be approved by the national governing body of the sport / hobby, such as the RYA does for boating activities.  I explained that there isn't a national governing body that I am aware of for light cruising hovercraft, but the hovercraft cruising club operates a strict code of conduct for its members and run annual training courses.  The courses are run over a weekend which takes complete novices to PLs1 which is a basic hovercraft pilot licence.  The hovercraft cruising club operate this licencing scheme to allow hovercraft owners to build  their knowledge and competence with regards piloting a hovercraft safely.
 
He said in the absence of a national governing body, then it could be a possibility that the hoverclub training scheme or a manufacturers training scheme could be used as the standard at which the youths are trained to pilot a light hovercraft, as long as it can be proven that the operating procedures are best practice.  ( Or something along those lines).
 
It looks like my next step is to get myself trained, so I can run training courses.
 
I have the backing of the youth development officer as he thinks this is an excellent idea.  He also operates power boat training courses for youths, so basically we could team up so we have the use of one of his ribs etc as a rescue craft.
 
One other point he raised, is that he maybe able to get a hovpod donated to this project, as he knows of one that was donated to the red cross near me, but they no longer use it.  they are thinking of selling the craft, but feels they maybe willing to donate it to this cause.

« Reply #2 on: Feb 03, 2013, 10:15 am »
 
Excellent!
Ian Brooks
Gloucester, UK

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« Reply #1 on: Feb 03, 2013, 9:07 am »
 
Moved from front page thread.
I have had two more youths confirm they want to join, that is 4 definites and 4 maybes